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Should i Install The Aviation Enterprises Wing Lets
I am completing my dream Sky Master 337 ;Pressurised model and in process of purchase, spotted out 3 planes ,two are in Europe and one In USA,All are ;H; model
My mission consists of 550 nm Trips over Apls with MEA of 16000 ft and in winter have lot of icing conditions, and as we know SkyMasters are not FIKI, I was thinking Winglets , are good choice as they will enhance my climb rate( as per claim) and let me climb faster if i encounter ice on the way up?i have no other wing extensions mods, standard 148 G tanks, was told by one of very respectful name and SkyMaster expert.. to stay away from them? pls guide and advise, you guys can write me on skywalkerbellagio@gmail.com or give opinion in this forum, thanks and blue skies Dennis Poznan Poland |
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Hi Dennis, use of the search function on this forum and a little on google help a lot with these older planes. In your case the plane sounds perfect how it is if it is booted for the occasional ice encounters.
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Wing lets
Thanx Brent , for the feed back ;-))
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Cessna 340 vs SkyMaster
Hello Jim C
pls give me your mail or pls mail me at skywalkerbellagio@gmail.com to discuss C340 i am highly intrested thanks Dennis |
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Work out all the bugs, learn the plane...then decide if you need mods.
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Sky Master Mods
John
this is great advise indeed, i studied all related posts, /threads from 2002 till 2017 which could help me to understand this plane, and know about the nuances, problems, maintenance issue, operating techniques etc , made lot of notes , and came to the conclusion.that ;Intercoolers and Speed Brakes/Spoiler; are must have its not about ;if i plan my descends well ahead, i do not need spoilers, main purpose for spoilers would be to descend fast thru icing .My business trips will be Poznan- Milan( Malpensa) and even in summer over Alps we do encounter icing ;-((( yes wing lets, and STOL mods may be just cosmetics, and nothing else By the way ,already bought the inter coolers Dennis |
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Dennis, my experience with deiced Skymasters in icing is they don't do very well. They don't climb all that well clean, and the rate of climb really falls off with any ice accumulation. They also loose a lot of speed with ice due to ice accumulation on all the surfaces that aren't booted like the vertical tails and struts. The engines run hot too due to the ice accumulations around the cooling air inlets. All in all, a bad deal. The boots loose effectiveness the higher you climb too, and really didn't shed ice well in the mid to high teens. I went through three winters in the Pacific Northwest in a booted P Skymaster with full deice, wouldn't do that again. No Skymaster is approved for flight in known icing, and from my experience, for good reason. If you are seriously considering flying in icing, I would look for a plane with much better climb capability that has been tested and approved for flight in icing conditions.
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I live in the PNW, currently have an N/A Skymaster, and I've been dreaming the dream of a booted P, not because I want to go screaming into icing, but for the same principle as a condom. I'd rather have the boots and not need them/use them. After you sold your P, what kind of machine did you go to? Leighton |
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I am just above the boarder from you, in The Great White North eh. I've spent a lot of time working in and around your area, mostly in helicopters. My boss just sold his P210N (previously based at S03), absolutely beautiful airplane - and I think he still sobs when he looks at pics. Kinda neat to compare the fuel burn / running costs between his 210 and my 337. Of course, he had me trumped with the pressurisation. Leighton. |
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Hi Jerry
its good to hear your opinion, i would really apreciate ,if other operators /owners of P337 Can guide and advise me In my purchase,as you guys know .these planes are hard to sell and have very low resale value ;-(( and would really like to make;well informed purchase; Wing lets are out of equation, i will just put the Horton and VG. and i also think, intercoolers are must for high altitudes flying. Regards Dennis |
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SkyMaster and icing condition
Hello Jeff
thanks for the very valuable info, i have been so much excited that i have found the most safest piston twin in the world, but icing capabilities and your experience really giving me second thoughts, i have been; so much inspired and ;fixed; on the idea of Skymaster owner ship ;-((((( of course i will always try to avoid FIKI; Even i had the plane equipped with FIKI with piston engines, but do you think it is hard to escape and too dangerous. if i encounter icing during my flight in a Skymater P337? |
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SkyMaster Deicing capabilities
Alex
i have great dilemma now ;-(((( and looking at C340 or C414A ( Less complicated fuel system and bonded wing), as you said how much worth is your life and health , it made me thinking once again, my typical flying will be over hostile terrains, and in this part of Europe we have lot of IFR weather. But i was never fan of traditional twin pistons ,due to asymetric thrust issues, Best aircraft would be Turbine, but i can afford them ;-((( what would you advise? P210 is out of question . Mary Christmas to all SOAPA members |
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