Skymaster down in Los Angeles

[mshac]

How the H*LL did you just post an inline photo???????? That is SWEET!

Did you notice any performance changes after the STC install?

Were the labor hour estimates accurate?

Somebody needs to design an STC whereby the main gear doors open to their "speed brake" position when you need to lose altitude without shock-cooling the engines...

[patrolpilot]

Originally Posted by mshac

How the H*LL did you just post an inline photo???????? That is SWEET!

Dude, I learned how in a topic you started! Making photos appear in posts

Originally Posted by mshac

Did you notice any performance changes after the STC install?

No changes at all; aerodynamics, noise, nothing.

Originally Posted by mshac

Were the labor hour estimates accurate?

Mine took the high end.

Originally Posted by mshac

Somebody needs to design an STC whereby the main gear doors open to their "speed brake" position when you need to lose altitude without shock-cooling the engines...

That sounds spooky to me!

[wslade2]

This is an interesting discussion and take for reason to do the gear door mod. Definitely noodling on it. Thanks!

[Frank Benvin]

Last thing to close are the gear doors. Keep your fluid topped up. If your low on fluid they may not close We had intermittent doors not closing. Took it to a shop and they did a gear swing and said all was fine. Took off and gear doors didn't close , cycled the gear and they closed. When I got home I decided to try and top up the fluid and it was low. After topping up the doors closed every time.

[kbecker]

I just watched a youtube video of the accident aircraft, may have been taken on the day of the accident. It was some ground ops at Whiteman. There is one view of the aft of the aircraft as it is taxiing away. The back and undercarriage of the plane look pretty dirty---may be oil, hydraulic fluid, dirt, etc. I can't tell.

Perhaps there were issues with the hydraulic system that could have been noticed earlier if the plane had been cleaned. I always try to do a post-flight inspection including getting under the plane to look for oil, hydraulic fluid, etc.

I had my gear doors fail to close one time--It turned out that I tried to retract the flaps and retract the gear at the same time. It tripped the hydraulic gear motor breaker and left the rear doors open. After resetting the breaker I was able to cycle the gear and the rear doors closed.

Kevin

[mshac]

Originally Posted by kbecker

I just watched a youtube video of the accident aircraft, may have been taken on the day of the accident.

I saw it too. I thought to myself, what are the chances that some random airplane groupie would post a video of this airplane the same day it crashed?

I don't know if the video was new or old, but the belly was black from either leaking oil or, more likely, leaking hydraulic fluid.

I think his system was low on fluid. He was 61, so its possible the stress of the situation caused him to have a stroke or coronary event. This would explain the lack of a stall recovery. We may never know.

Also, the pilot requested 2500' when the controller asked him what he wanted after reporting the gear issue. According to the ADS-B tracking, he never initiated a climb from 2000'. Just another data point to consider.

[mshac]

Originally Posted by patrolpilot

That sounds spooky to me!

It would be spooky...Vlo is 140, so if you can keep your indicated at 140 or below, you really lose some altitude fast.

Have a switch like the flaps, so you can go to 1/3, 2/3, full according to your situation. If Vlo is 140, then maybe 1/3 would be 180, 2/3 160, etc.