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Flickering Lights

Kyle:

Define flickering lights. If you are referring to the amber alternator lights flashing on and off as the alternators take turns picking up the load, the paralleling regulator modification will help. If you are referring to the rapid flickering of your instrument lights, the regulator mod will not help that. The flickering of instrument lights is due to rapid voltage fluctuations. This is caused by resistance in the regulator circuit. The resistance can be in dirty or corroded connections, the field circuit breakers, the alternator field switches, or the master switch. It takes a very little amount of extra resistance to make the system start to "hunt" or chase, causing the voltage to rapidly rise and fall, casuing the lights to get brighter and dimmer.

The good news is that the problem is not terribly expensive to fix. Clean all connections in the field side of the alternator and regulator wiring. Replace, if required, the alternator field switches, the master switch, and the field circuit breakers. Your lights will stop flickering, at least for a while.

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Kyle:

Define flickering lights. If you are referring to the amber alternator lights flashing on and off as the alternators take turns picking up the load, the paralleling regulator modification will help. If you are referring to the rapid flickering of your instrument lights, the regulator mod will not help that. The flickering of instrument lights is due to rapid voltage fluctuations. This is caused by resistance in the regulator circuit. The resistance can be in dirty or corroded connections, the field circuit breakers, the alternator field switches, or the master switch. It takes a very little amount of extra resistance to make the system start to "hunt" or chase, causing the voltage to rapidly rise and fall, casuing the lights to get brighter and dimmer.

The good news is that the problem is not terribly expensive to fix. Clean all connections in the field side of the alternator and regulator wiring. Replace, if required, the alternator field switches, the master switch, and the field circuit breakers. Your lights will stop flickering, at least for a while.

Mark
Where is the data on the paralleling ? I had my field CB blow and found out we do NOT have true electric redundancy . Emergency situation if you are IMC!
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Kyle:

Define flickering lights. If you are referring to the amber alternator lights flashing on and off as the alternators take turns picking up the load, the paralleling regulator modification will help. If you are referring to the rapid flickering of your instrument lights, the regulator mod will not help that. The flickering of instrument lights is due to rapid voltage fluctuations. This is caused by resistance in the regulator circuit. The resistance can be in dirty or corroded connections, the field circuit breakers, the alternator field switches, or the master switch. It takes a very little amount of extra resistance to make the system start to "hunt" or chase, causing the voltage to rapidly rise and fall, casuing the lights to get brighter and dimmer.

The good news is that the problem is not terribly expensive to fix. Clean all connections in the field side of the alternator and regulator wiring. Replace, if required, the alternator field switches, the master switch, and the field circuit breakers. Your lights will stop flickering, at least for a while.

Mark
Where can I find the info on paralleling please?
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A simple use of the search feature found this

http://www.337skymaster.com/messages...ht=Paralleling

http://www.337skymaster.com/messages...ht=Paralleling
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Lightbulb Panel lights

You just have to realize these are flying dinosaurs. The voltage will drool up and down a bit, and so will your panel lights. If you have a digital voltage gauge somewhere you will see even cars do the same, as the battery and alternator and loads chase each other around.

Once way to fix that panel light issue is to voltage limit the supply side reference voltage of the dimmer circuit, the NPN TO3 transistor to a constant source. For example, a 20 volt zener diode to ground with a resistor to b+, then feed the totally stable 20V into the top of the reference for the dimer circuit. Now you have literally voltage regulated lighting.

Of course, I am not familiar with any FAA approval to do so.
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My airplane came with the 60 amp alternators, and the Zeftronics regulators installed. There doesn't seem to be any adjustment available, but I don't get any weird flickering lights.

I do have a volt meter and dual ammeters. She's pretty stable, has about a 10amp draw with everything turned on.

One observation I've made is that a good charge in the battery seems to make the whole thing run nicer. If the battery is low for one reason or another, the front alternator will output a much higher voltage, to the point where it can kick the rear alternator offline.

If I've been away for a period of time (I travel a lot due: work) I make a habit of pulling the battery and throwing it on charge for an hour or so. A battery minder would probably be a good investment.

Leighton.
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Lostkiwi:

Does the voltage on the front alternator rise or does the current from the front alternator go up?

If it is the latter, which makes more sense, the front alternator is sensing the load more than the rear alternator. This can be resistance in the field circuit, output side, or ground circuit. Please report more information.

Dave
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