Folks, we need to fortify the front against Garmin (Autopilot) - Page 3

corybehl · #31 02-10-23, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryann

YankeeClipper: Check with another Genesys dealer, $40K seems at least several thousand $ too high. That would work out to about $14K of install labor to reach $40K.

Ryann: Can I share your estimate amount? Or do you want to share it?

Ryann · #32 02-10-23, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by corybehl

Ryann: Can I share your estimate amount? Or do you want to share it?

Cory, feel free. You're in a better position than I am to talk about the factors that go into the installation and labor.

-Ryan

corybehl · #33 02-10-23, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryann

Cory, feel free. You're in a better position than I am to talk about the factors that go into the installation and labor.

-Ryan

STEC (Genesys) 3100 337 Parts Cost for a new install is $25995, which is listed in the email Ryann posted from Barry at Genesys. My shop has a flat rate of 20 hours per servo and 10 hours for the controller and other pieces. My shop rate is currently $135/hr. Thats puts my install costs at $9450 and a 10% shop consumable fee. Ryan's estimate total is $36,390. If anybody has any questions, please feel free to call: 541-507-1007

YankeeClipper · #34 02-11-23, 08:25 AM

Cory, would that be based on a 3 axis install that replaces a legacy (eg ARC) AP?

corybehl · #35 02-11-23, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeeClipper

Cory, would that be based on a 3 axis install that replaces a legacy (eg ARC) AP?

This is a three axis new install with no autopilot or a non-STEC AP currently installed. The upgrade cost from a legacy STEC AP is estimated $10995 parts, $5400 labor, $540 shop consumables. So just under $17k. Now, this is based on my shop rate, which is $135/hr. Oh, also I don’t have taxes.

YankeeClipper · #36 02-12-23, 08:20 AM

Interesting... Barry thought the installs would take about 130 hours, which is more than twice the time in this estimate, and he was referring to a 2-axis install.

corybehl · #37 02-12-23, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeeClipper

Interesting... Barry thought the installs would take about 130 hours, which is more than twice the time in this estimate, and he was referring to a 2-axis install.

I'll charge you for 130 hours if you want me to.

wslade2 · #38 02-12-23, 09:11 PM

Just a question here: looking at the Genesis 3100 certification list, I’m wondering if Beechcraft Travelair or Twin Commander fleet had to put up 25 deposits of $5000 to get their certification?

Those are also low volume, long out of production twin aircraft…but they’re certified for the 3100.

What’s the secret to get on the list?

corybehl · #39 02-26-23, 03:00 AM

Please have all your SkyMaster buddies fill out this form for Garmin. I talked with my Garmin Rep and he said to have each of you fill out the form. The more the better.

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/forms/autopilotinterest/

I want you to get an autopilot. Please let me know in a reply that you filled out the form. If you can't remember if you filled it out, try it anyway. If you know you've filled it out previously, let me know as a reply as well. This way I can tell him numbers. Those numbers are my ammunition to trying to get this pushed through.

YankeeClipper · #40 02-26-23, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by corybehl

Please have all your SkyMaster buddies fill out this form for Garmin. I talked with my Garmin Rep and he said to have each of you fill out the form. The more the better.

https://www.garmin.com/en-US/forms/autopilotinterest/

I want you to get an autopilot. Please let me know in a reply that you filled out the form. If you can't remember if you filled it out, try it anyway. If you know you've filled it out previously, let me know as a reply as well. This way I can tell him numbers. Those numbers are my ammunition to trying to get this pushed through.

Done.

-Gray-

bjornfb · #41 02-26-23, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by corybehl

Please let me know in a reply that you filled out the form. If you can't remember if you filled it out, try it anyway.

Done. Can’t remember if I filed it out before, so I did just now (or again).

-Bjorn

Cglencross · #42 02-26-23, 07:43 PM

done, filled out.

mshac · #43 02-26-23, 07:51 PM

I filled out the form, but my 60-2 is working well so I don't plan to make any changes soon.

Just for grins I checked out the autopilot options for the experimentals. Just look at the cool Garmin-integrated stuff they can get: https://sarasotaavionics.com/categor...t-experimental

This control head is really nice: https://sarasotaavionics.com/avionic...7-experimental

GAdams · #44 02-26-23, 08:29 PM

I too have filled out the form for the Garmin and the STec. I installed the 55x recently and I am very happy. I won't upgrade to the 3100.

I saw this ad today in Barnstormers and they claim it has a Garmin autopilot. Someone might want to check this out and see why this 337 has a Garmin autopilot.

https://www.barnstormers.com/classif...ml?catid=17416

Ryann · #45 02-26-23, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GAdams

I saw this ad today in Barnstormers and they claim it has a Garmin autopilot. Someone might want to check this out and see why this 337 has a Garmin autopilot.

https://www.barnstormers.com/classif...ml?catid=17416

It's kinda interesting that they got the year wrong (listing says 1974, while 1975 is correct for N663GG), and the only photo seems to be a screen-shot off Barnstormers itself. Hmm.. I Emailed for more photos, particularly of the panel.

-Ryan