Autopilot upgrade

[Cglencross]

Originally Posted by mdrob1985

Let’s hope, based on aircraft weight and performance that they actually do with the GFC 600 and not the 500. If they do come through on a solution.

I'm not sure why you need the 600. We don't need rudder bias and there are many planes out there that are approved that have equal or better performance than the 337. In addition, they have already approved the PA-34 and PA-30 so twins with asymmetric thrust are okay.

The only benefit of the 600 that I can see is you don't need a GI-275 (when I spoke with them they where not going to approve it with the G5).

Is there something I'm missing?

[hayesjaj]

Originally Posted by Cglencross

I'm not sure why you need the 600. We don't need rudder bias and there are many planes out there that are approved that have equal or better performance than the 337. In addition, they have already approved the PA-34 and PA-30 so twins with asymmetric thrust are okay.

The only benefit of the 600 that I can see is you don't need a GI-275 (when I spoke with them they where not going to approve it with the G5).

Is there something I'm missing?

The 600 has more powerful actuators. A critical performance demonstration is required for certification where a test pilot takes the aircraft to maximum altitude, puts it in a dive (I think to some high % of VNE) and then commands an autopilot recovery. One of the Garmin engineers told me a few years ago they were concerned about the control forces required with the higher gross weight aircraft (think 4650 or 4700 for later models). I guess there were some issues with 210s in this regard. I know Senecas are just below that weight but their control forces are a little lighter than 210s/337s.

I've flown the 500 in 182s and 210s and can confirm it struggles a little bit with the heavier 210, at least in the examples I flew. Its brilliant in the 182 so hopefully they can make it work.