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Unread 09-21-08, 08:56 PM
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That section you refer to says "recommended", not "mandatory". It is not required for an annual inspection to accomplish to return to service.

What part of the "... for Contenued airworthness" is the manufacture saying its recommended? The FAA seems to think its required at their set inspection time...

As you can read in the manual its really a test to keep you from having a air emergency due to electrical failure. So it seems to me that its a safety item that rates right up their with oil and gas

But you as owner can do what you want... however, next time you get ramp checked and they ask for the airworthy cert because it wasn't done use the recommended instead of mandatory arguement and see if it works.

The new buz word is " for Contenued Airworthness... it shall be done...

Fly safe GMAs

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Unread 09-21-08, 09:49 PM
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Service bulletins are recommended too, but they are not mandatory either.

The FAA does not have a leg to stand on when they tell you that they are required. End of story.

Unless that battery was installed under an STC, is continued airworthiness required, and only if that was inserted in the major alteration form 337 on the back page.

If it is not specifically in FAR 43, Appendix D, the FAA can kiss my hiney, when it comes to the scope and detail of an annual inspection.

And George, your spelling has not improved with your absence. Please learn how to spell continued there is a difference between there and their.
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Unread 09-21-08, 10:23 PM
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Service bulletins are recommended too, but they are not mandatory either.

The FAA does not have a leg to stand on when they tell you that they are required. End of story.

Unless that battery was installed under an STC, is continued airworthiness required, and only if that was inserted in the major alteration form 337 on the back page.

If it is not specifically in FAR 43, Appendix D, the FAA can kiss my hiney, when it comes to the scope and detail of an annual inspection.

And George, your spelling has not improved with your absence. Please learn how to spell continued there is a difference between there and their.
Gill .. the orginal equipment battery... is right on the cover of the book... hmmm ya think that its STC'd?

Only been at this game for only a few years...(35) so what do I know...

Oh and if your using FAR 43, Apdx D for your annuals.. ahhhh you need to go back and look up what 43 apdx D is for... as you may be kissing the FAA's hiney big time... last time I checked Cessna made the plane and supports it ... thus in the front of their service manual is this big old list of ting to do at annual time...(grin) ahhh sooo...

Battery ...STC, 337 form wow you all are too technical 4 me hre... head'n back to my brd
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Unread 09-22-08, 07:52 AM
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Gill .. the orginal equipment battery... is right on the cover of the book... hmmm ya think that its STC'd?

Only been at this game for only a few years...(35) so what do I know...
AKKKKK, wrong, the original equipment batteries on all new Cessna's were Rebat batteries. Black cases with orange caps. I know, I worked at a Cessna dealership for a few years.

Gill wet cell batteries are PMA'd, sealed batteries are STC'd, which means that a form 337 is required.

I've been bending wrenches on airplanes since '71, so I do know what I'm talking about.
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Unread 09-22-08, 10:10 AM
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AKKKKK, wrong, the original equipment batteries on all new Cessna's were Rebat batteries. Black cases with orange caps. I know, I worked at a Cessna dealership for a few years.

Gill wet cell batteries are PMA'd, sealed batteries are STC'd, which means that a form 337 is required.
You're correct, the Gill batteries are PMA'd, so they are covered under the Cessna MM.
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Unread 09-22-08, 09:43 AM
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What part of the "... for Contenued airworthness" is the manufacture saying its recommended? The FAA seems to think its required at their set inspection time...

As you can read in the manual its really a test to keep you from having a air emergency due to electrical failure. So it seems to me that its a safety item that rates right up their with oil and gas

But you as owner can do what you want... however, next time you get ramp checked and they ask for the airworthy cert because it wasn't done use the recommended instead of mandatory arguement and see if it works.

The new buz word is " for Contenued Airworthness... it shall be done...

Fly safe GMAs

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You are intentionally twisting the wording in this for your benefit. The service bulletin gives a "recommended" period for inspection, does not "require" it to be done at annual.

And yes, I'm an owner, and a A&P/IA.

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